Can you work fewer hours and still grow your firm? Sasha Berson says yes: he took 151 of 302 days off in 2026, and his business is better for it. In this episode, Sasha sits down with Elizabeth Grace Saunders, a time management coach who has worked with clients on six continents, to talk about ruthless time management for law firm owners. They dig into the one decision you need to make before you fix your calendar, why one difficult client can derail a small firm, and how one of Elizabeth's PI clients earned more in a single quarter than in the whole previous year. Tune in today.
📰 About Elizabeth Grace Saunders:
Elizabeth Grace Saunders is the founder and CEO of Real Life E, a time coaching company she has run as a time management coach since 2009. She was one of the first coaches in the field and has worked with clients on six continents. Her books on time management have been published by McGraw-Hill, Harvard Business Review Press, and FaithWords. Many of her clients are attorneys who own their firms, and she helps them cut the overwhelm, protect their focus time, and build firms they actually enjoy running.
👉 Sasha and Elizabeth explore:
— The question every firm owner needs to answer before planning a single week
— Why staying small demands more discipline than scaling
— How one difficult client can derail a small firm's entire schedule
— The two ways overwhelmed attorneys react, and why both backfire
— Why so many attorneys can't delegate (hint: it's often the wrong people or no systems)
— How a PI attorney out-earned her entire previous year in one quarter
— Why it's your fault if your firm feels crazy, and why that's good news
👉 Main Takeaways from the Episode:
— Decide this week whether you're staying small (1–2 attorneys) or scaling, and use that answer to filter every client and calendar decision.
— Audit your active caseload this month and refer out every client who isn't a fit or whose case you haven't touched in months.
— Block focused work time on your calendar first, then fit meetings, messages, and business development around it.
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📞 Connect with Elizabeth Grace Saunders:
• Website: https://reallifee.com
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethgracesaunders
📞 Connect with Sasha Berson:
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/grow-law/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grow_law/
• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@growlaw
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/growlaw
• Email: info@growlaw.co
• Phone: (954) 620-5521
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